WHAT is a captain?
Is he someone who scores goals no matter where he plays? Is she a player who never shuts up, constantly barking orders at her team mates? Maybe someone who calmly, but quietly, leads by example?
Or can it be any combination of the above and more, depending on your point of view?
As soon as I saw the announcement about Jordan Henderson’s new contract I knew it would cause debate. I dived into the replies to the various tweets from journalists giving a summary of the deal, intrigued to see what the split of responses would be.
It was as expected.
https://twitter.com/LFC/status/1036645042813915139
Even accounting for the negative nature of people’s general use of that social media platform (in my experience it ranks only behind YouTube for users being horrible to each other and to those to whom they’re replying), there were an overwhelming number of people criticising both the contract extension and the fact that Henderson remains Liverpool’s captain (and is now likely to for the foreseeable future).
It begs the question: What do Liverpool fans want and expect from a captain?
I’ve had this conversation numerous times before. If you’ve listened to me on various podcasts over the past 18 months you might have heard me say when discussing who Liverpool fans want in centre midfield that they’re not allowed to pick Graeme Souness or Steven Gerrard, which I’ve identified as being the ultimate end-game in most people’s gripes with anyone playing centre midfield for us.
To clear that up before going any further, you can’t have Gerrard or Souness. Get over it.
Even as I write that, though, it would be interesting to know which of those players you think was more of a captain?
For those modern fans bemoaning Jordan because they expect their leaders to be like Gerrard, there’s an older generation that wasn’t a fan of Gerrard’s leadership because they were used to Souness. Some of you might not remember, but there were plenty of occasions when Gerrard’s suitability to the captain’s role was questioned, not least when he was moping around the pitch in a bad mood. He was often not the vocal captain many desired.
And what about Alan Hansen, Phil Thompson or Sami Hyypia? Which of them is your ideal captain?
What strikes me most about the Henderson as captain debate is that it only takes place among fans. As far as I’m aware, every manager that Jordan has played for in his junior and professional career has at some point asked him to lead their team. That’s everything from youth international football, to lower league youth set ups and now to the senior international and elite club level of the game.
Yet some fans watching from the outside think he’s not worthy of such a lofty position mainly, as far as I can see, because he doesn’t score enough goals from the number six position (I’m yet to be given an example of someone who does score plenty from that role on the pitch) and because he sometimes gives the ball away.
Yet those same fans laud Jürgen Klopp as some sort of football saviour.
Something surely has to give in that scenario. Either Klopp knows what he’s doing and Henderson is better than many think, as a player and as a captain, or Klopp is blind to a severely flawed player, which devalues him as a manager. You can’t have it both ways.
You’re likely to have seen Klopp’s comments on the contract extension, but they’re worth repeating here.
The manager told Liverpoolfc.com: “It is fantastic news but should not be a surprise to anyone – he is perfect for us and we for him, I think.
“Jordan embodies entirely what it means to be a Liverpool player in this modern era of football. You can tell through his actions on and off the pitch he treats representing our badge and our shirt as a privilege. He takes nothing for granted and strives to learn and be better for his team at all times.
“He carries a lot on his shoulders that people on the outside won’t see, but he embraces that responsibility and that leadership. He is our ‘General’ and I trust him completely.
“But the best thing is, I think – in fact, I know – he will get even better in these coming years. And this improvement will come from a very high base already.
“Jordan is so important to us and we are very fortunate as a club to have this person commit to us as he has.
“For Jordan and his wonderful young family I am really pleased they now know they are part of our Liverpool family for an even longer time.”
Just look at some of the words he chooses to use. “Perfect”, “embodies entirely”, “we are very fortunate”, “I trust him completely”.
Those are not the words of a manager in any doubt about his captain.
I saw people saying on Twitter that Klopp is basically stuck with Henderson and can’t change a captain he inherited. An argument they no doubt use to justify loving Klopp while hating our number 14. Those people either have short memories or maybe aren’t older enough to remember that Gerrard was made captain at the expense of Hyypia, who continued as a key member of the team after losing the captaincy.
The same happened to Phil Thompson when Souness took over the arm band.
Elite level managers have no problem being ruthless for the greater good when it becomes necessary (just ask Mamadou Sakho whether he thinks Klopp falls into that category).
We can be sure that if Klopp wasn’t entirely happy with Jordan as his captain and as a key member of his midfield, he would no longer be there. It will, of course, be interesting to see what happens when Fabinho is ready to be assimilated into the team, and how Henderson responds to that challenge.
If Fabinho proves himself as being better than our current number six, there’s no doubt in my mind that he will, and should, take Henderson’s place in the first team.
But that’s far from guaranteed and, as Jürgen said: “…the best thing is, I think – in fact, I know – he will get even better in these coming years. And this improvement will come from a very high base already.”
I’d be interested to find out which of the people who can’t stand Hendo as our captain and deepest-lying midfielder thought of Lucas Leiva five years ago. Were they part of the crew that hated him, even going as far as booing him during games, only years later to hail him in his new role as a cult hero?
Things change quickly in football, and there’s no doubt in my mind Henderson would be thought of more highly by the masses had he gone that one extra step in any of the finals he’s played in. Lifting a trophy while wearing the captain’s armband is ultimately what it’s all about, so it will be interesting to see what happens to his reputation when that time comes.
In my view, Henderson is an excellent captain and a very good footballer with the potential to reach an elite level. He will never be Gerrard, but I also think he has made a big personal sacrifice by agreeing to become a number six when he could easily have been a 10-goal-a–season, dynamic attacking midfielder if his younger years were anything to go by (people seem to forget some of the wonderful goals he’s scored in seasons when he was deployed higher up the pitch).
It’s worth remembering that not all players are prepared to play in a position alien to them for the greater good.
Of course he makes mistakes, gives the ball away and isn’t perfect. Nobody is. The debate, as far as I can see it, stems from the fact that he does enough of everything that you can see whatever you want to see. He’s like a walking, talking and breathing magic eye picture.
If you want to only focus on the times he gives the ball away attempting a pass, there’s plenty for you to use as confirmation bias that he is shit, and the same applies if you want to focus on the world class 60-yard passes he’s capable of.
30 – Jordan Henderson has not ended on the losing side in any of his last 30 England matches (W23 D7), the longest unbeaten run of any England player in history. Fulcrum.#ENG #WorldCup pic.twitter.com/GH7QVEMgBh
— OptaJoe (@OptaJoe) July 8, 2018
Most of us see what we want in the world at the end of the day. Choosing to try to see the other side of the argument is the real key, but it’s easier said than done, especially if you already feel like you’ve nailed your colours to the mast on one side of a debate.
I used to experience the same thing in conversations about Lucas before it was cool to love him. When discussing how good he could be with someone who thought he was rubbish, they simply couldn’t see it because they were ignoring anything good and focussing on everything bad. Do that with any player and you’ll soon realise that they could all have YouTube compilation videos making them look like average Sunday League players. Even the very best look awful at times.
Of course the same can apply to people who love a player and are blind to the mistakes they make and the flaws in their game. If you only focus on one side of the debate, you can never properly engage in a worthwhile conversation about whatever the topic is.
Regardless of ongoing arguments about Henderson’s footballing ability though, his main issue as a captain, in Klopp’s words, is that much of what he does is done quietly, behind the scenes when nobody is watching.
That’s what a real leader is. Someone who makes sacrifices for others without any credit or public adoration. Someone who, in the moments of euphoria after a Champions League semi-final win, has the presence of mind to remember to acknowledge a supporter who has been seriously injured on his way to a match. Someone who does everything he can on and off the pitch to make life easier for those around him.
True leaders can do things in public for the pleasure of the crowd while also doing plenty behind the scenes that goes unnoticed. Whatever your view on Jordan Henderson as a player, his value as a captain is clear to all of those who want to see it.
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What are the words she and her doing in first paragraph?
Going to go out on a limb here and say they’re acknowledging that football and captaincy is enjoyed by more than one gender.
Because women play sports as well and female teams also have captains.
Reminding us that women play football too. And their teams have captains.
Or just reminding us that your name is also a girls name as well ;)
I see Hendo as a good player who does his level best every time he puts on the shirt. He seems to have the confidence of his team mates and of course his manager. That doesn’t mean he should be a central part of the team though as his limitations as a no 6 are impossible to ignore. For me the most important skill is anticipating play, reading the game so that you are ready to break up play and protect the back four, a skill Lucas possessed and Hendo doesn’t. I’m sure you could complete a clips video of him doing just this, but it would be easier compiling one where he fails to close down, is ball watching and allowing players to run off him.
The next important skill is, when in possession, to try to move play on, a forward ball whenever possible, again something Lucas did well. Hendo far too often plays the easy ball, short lateral pass, gets it back and does the same again. With our forwards that is just a waste and slows play.
For me he is a more than decent attacking midfielder and that is where he might get games if Fabinho claims his spot. He isn’t a Souness, then again who could as the best Liverpool midfielder I have seen and a mighty fine captain.
Oh, and the booing of Lucas? The game where there was ironic cheering from some when he was substituted seems to have become something it wasn’t, repeated booing of him. Yes there was negative comment from some supporters when he made a mistake, but repeated booing? Not really.
They booed his name at Anfield when the teams were announced, frequently.
“For those modern fans bemoaning Jordan because they expect their leaders to be like Gerrard, there’s an older generation that wasn’t a fan of Gerrard’s leadership because they were used to Souness”
Used to Souness? Really, He was captain for all of 2 yrs.There was a 20yrs gap between the two and a dozen other captains had been appointed before Gerrard.
An argument that better reflects the grumblings at the time were that Gerrard wasn’t Carragher, who was seen as more passionate due to his vocal displays and not being shy to front up to the ref.
Souness and Gerrard are a class of their own.
Comparing poor Henderson who for me is a limited squad player is often unfair.
Did you watch the England and Spain match?
Klopp fancies him so let’s see if Henderson rewards his boss’s faith in him.
A fantastic piece that articulates my thoughts on Henderson perfectly. However, I’ve come to realise ‘Hendo haters’ are like Trump supporters – their views are carved in stone and you’ve got more chance of Mourinho winning Mr Humble UK 2018 than you have them seeing sense.
There’s a simple truth being ignored by many – Henderson’s role is exactly the same now as it was when Rodgers left – he’s the captain playing in a deep midfield position. If Klopp had any issue whatsoever with him you’d expect one of those factors to change, ie he’d change his position, change the captaincy, or sell Henderson altogether. Klopp hasn’t though, and the manager has had ample chance to do so if he wished to. Klopp knew as soon as he joined the club that he wanted Henderson to build on the role he’d already been developing and that’s what he’s been doing ever since. All the evidence suggests Klopp is completely happy with Henderson and that’s good enough for me.
Spot on.
Well said. The only thing about being a general is you also need to be a lucky one, as per Naploen. Hopefully we lift the next trophy we contest in a final.
If it wasn’t for some thuggery in the last final that left our goalie concussed and our star player on the end of some illegal MMA move… then this might have happened.
Like Lovren, Hendo wasn’t too far away from going to the World Cup and the CL Final in the same season… Now luck will only take you so far and as was proven in the year we nearly won the PL under Rodgers, if we hadn’t of lost Hendo then who knows what would have happened versus Chelsea that season.
Too many quick to slag him off and yet he does a good job for us.
I think you could argue that’s where Henderson let the team down – Ramos took out Salah and the ref did nothing. That left it up to us and what did our captain do? Look annoyed. Next tackle, he should have broken Ramos’s leg. Or sprained it. Or screamed in the official’s face. Or basically done something other than look slightly annoyed. Because that weakness allowed Ramos to do the same to Karius with disastrous consequences.
I like Henderson but he’s a good midfielder, not a captain.
What load of crap.
Gerrard and the Reds were 0-3 down to one of the best club teams in the world in 2005.
They also had that mad bastard Gattuso. Ramos is a fucking child compared to Gattuso.
Yet Gerrard led the team through it by scoring.
The bench not having quality was Klopp’s own doing. He lives and dies by it so I. This instance he was made to swallow his pride when he sends on a minnow compared to Bale.
Henderson was as usual missing again in one of the biggest games of their lives.
Regarding Mo being injured, Beckenbauer played with a dislocated shoulder against Italy in the 1970 semi against Italy and scored too. Any idea how tough those men were?
Yup keep blaming Ramos. No red had the balls to stand up to him in the match.
Whoever is captain during the game is no big deal.. gotta watch a coin toss and thats about it. Personally I think milner seems more of a captain but that’s just the way he plays. Henderson obviously takes his roll seriously and conducts himself in the right manner. For me the captain should be one of the players who you can almost guarantee will start. Time will tell how much game time he gets in the next few years but perhaps that doesn’t matter.