Liverpool face Tottenham Hotspur at Anfield this Sunday looking to avenge their 4-1 mauling at White Hart Lane earlier this season and put breathing space between themselves and Tottenham in the table.
Joining host Neil Atkinson this week to preview the weekends action are Paul Cope, Mike Nevin and John Gibbons.
Radio City Talk: Payback Time
He never comes right out and says it, but I think Nevin wants Klopp out.
He does. And it’s getting extremely annoying and tiresome. Can the Anfield Wrap and TAW Player give Mike Nevin his own show? Call it the “The Mike AMAtT Nevin Show” (AMAtT= All Moaning All the Time). Make it a twice-a-week feature, strictly on the paid subscription side. In exchange, he gets to appear on no other current LFC football-related podcast. Win-win!
The worst thing is that most of his criticisms mirror those that he often claims were unfairly levelled at Rafa.
I’ve listened to TAW from the start, and Mike would be a strong contender for TAW Mount Rushmore – his work on TIWWCH is outstanding.
But he’s turning into Tony Evans.
Nevin is just a completely unrealistic dinosaur. Neil Atkinson nailed it, consistently qualifying gives you bigger transfers better quality etc
Nevin can do one with his ultra negative opinions. Not to mention his continual punting of gambling as a fun thing to do it never destroys lives blah blah.
Hear, hear!
As for the ‘betting’ part, I couldn’t care less and I will never be ‘led’ to gamble by anything or anyone. On the other hand, I’d like a bit less of a lionizing of the outfit Nevin is working for, and quite a bit less of the long-winded descriptions of the minutiae of who developed which ‘fun bet’ with the clever ‘name’. I know this is all meant to be funny but I am afraid it’s more tedious than funny.
What’s unrealistic about winning a trophy?
Another show ruined by gambling advertising forced upon you for long periods. Really distasteful. Many podcasts have gambling advertising which i have no problem with, as it’s succinct and to the point and normally over with in less than a minute. Shows need to earn money after all. But TAW force gambling on you for half the show and seems to now be a recurring theme. Real Shame and completely ruined the show for me.
Oh fuck off. Im only here for the nev!
Mike is what he is,football is black and white for him and passion wins out over nuance 9 times out of 10 and that’s fine,there’s different ways of discussing football.What’s disappointing me lately is that I listen to TAW for the nuance and the grey areas being navigated in a more rational manner,and that seems to have gone away a bit.I don’t know if it’s intentional or people like Neil and John just can’t be arsed taking some of Mike’s arguments apart like they’ve always done,but it’s becoming a frustrating listen.
Advocating acting like ManU do in the transfer market is bonkers.Surely somebody on the show realised that doing exactly what another club is doing in order to overtake them,but on what would have to be a smaller scale is not ambition,if anything it’s the opposite.They can be that aggressive because they can afford to rectify their mistakes and still compete for top players. To compete we need to be way more efficient with our transfer business,ie. a lot less mistakes and we need to be more clever with our targets so the mistakes we do make don’t effect our transfer/wage budget to any real degree when we do have to correct a mistake. I know it’s not working quick enough for some people,but it is working.Our hit rate on transfers is as good as it’s been in a long,long time and because Klopp has been so efficient in the market,the money is there now to add more quality to what is already a very good team(only once in the PL era have we had more points after 25 games).We’ve beaten Chelsea to Oxlaide Chamberlain and VVD,paying a world record for a defender in tbe process so it’s not that we aren’t aggressive,but it’s controlled aggression.
But when it comes down to it we have to face up to certain realities.We’re lagging well behind City and ManU along with 5 or 6 of Europe’s other top clubs when it comes to finances,and the teams with the most money will always have a massive advantage.FSG have done exactly what they said they’d do from day 1,they’re not sugar daddies but they take nothing out of the club.All revenue generated is available to be reinvested(this is not an opinion,this is a fact backed up by the annual accounts)and Klopp is working very well within that financial model,there’s probably not a manager better suited for us in world football.So why we can all offer platitudes about what we should expect as Liverpool supporters,to have expectations that ignore the realities can quickly become counter productive.I feel Mike Nevin is guilty of that often.Id love TAW to do a show where Mike makes his case to somebody like Paul Tomkins,a man whose often accused of settling for mediocrity because of a very good understanding of football,and football finance and the realities that come with it.It would be an entertaining show imo,Mike’s passion v Paul’s more measured analysis.Just a thought. In the meantime I’d love you to do a show with an expert on football finance in general.This FSG out nonsense is gathering a bit of steam on social media and a lot of it is being driven by morons with zero idea about football finance.I know it might not be the most exciting topic for many but if there’s a debate going on around the club,It wouldn’t be a bad thing for some to become a little bit more educated on the subject they spend their life campaigning against.
John
Not listened to the show yet so not passing comment on that (or Mike) but to be anti-FSG is becoming boring. No, they arent pumping millions in but they arent taking a penny out either. Their payoff will come when they sell the club and realise the appreciate in the asset. In this sense our interest are alligned and they only get a return by handing it over in a better state than they found it. And when they do, just be careful what you wish for with the next owners. We know what bad owners look like and it doesnt look like FSG. Long may they remain.
Listening to Klopp pre match conference, does he basically admit that Mane’s poor form is related to Salah being center of attention this season? Anyone confirm or correct me on this? Looking for second opinion…
If Nevin or anyone else here wants Klopp out…they are entitled to an opinion…but are obviously idiots…and certainly shouldn’t have this platform to voice stupid opinions…the gambling ads are unpalatable to me as well…and the segments wasting time with stupid names for stupid bets are uncalled for…nobody buys the crap about generously giving back some insignificant percentage of gross earnings…if you wanna peddle that lie…I want full transparency of earnings and payouts to the “community”…
With me…it has opposite to desired effect, I rarely bet…but when I next do, bet…it certainly won’t be through redbet outfit…cause it is annoying me far more than occasional humourous ads from the established sites…
I’ve never heard Mike Nevin say he wanted Klopp out.
Who is the one going on about “how gret Henderson is)? Klopp is obviously obliged to build up all the links, regardless of weaknesses…and will be the first to their defense publicly…ie. goal keepers defenders and bottom table quality midfielders…I also trust he will happily move them on to gualible buyers praising their merits while driving up the fee…Eddie Howes backside is still burning from the friction of Ibe transfer…
Hope surviving relegation warriors scrape together £40-50mil to steal Hendo…so they can kick on with coveted England internationals…hopefully prior to WC elimination comes, at the hand of Trinidad or Peru etc.
I completely and wholeheartedly agree with Paul Cope here.
We are far too nice as a whole.
I had a fan tell me the other day that we’re having a really good season. I then went on to point out to him that we’re not gonna win the league, the league cup and the FA cup and are very unlikely that we’ll win the CL either now we’ve sold our best player mid season and not replaced him. We had very different ideas of what a “really good season” was.
The decisions the club made this Jan made sure it was more difficult for us to win anything this season. It was an opportunity mid season to strengthen and we chose to weaken because a player we had under a long contract wanted to fulfil his “dream” and didn’t want to wait for another 5 months.
We need to start getting nasty. On and off the pitch.
We can see some of the too nice fans above.