WELL, how do you slag them off when, actually, they’ve not been that bad and the opposition have played well and rode their luck massively?
If you want to blame someone, blame me, because every time I turn up Fraser Forster, who’s absolutely shite, somehow has a worldie.
Well, me and Bobby Madley; if only he’d sticked to robbing wine like his brother, the fat tit.
Simon Mignolet: 6
Nothing to do, and what he had to do he did solidly.
Great punch second half to clear his lines, that apart, could have stayed at home.
Nathaniel Clyne: 6
If he had a touch of end product he’d be the best full-back in the country but under the impression he closes his eyes when he’s crossing it.
Saying that, great interception to win the ball back when we looked to to have lost it in a dangerous situation.
Dejan Lovren: 6
Theresa May with a bit of substance.
Joel Matip: 6
See above, him and Lovren seem to work well as a partnership, didn’t do anything wrong, didn’t have much to do, hard to praise or criticise.
James Milner: 6
Got unlucky with a penalty, hit the target within 2ft of the post.
It happens.
Emre Can: 6
Theresa May with better hair.
Lucas Leiva: 6
Brutally taken off before he could get another assist, kept the midfield nip and tuck and always offered an option both in front and behind.
Georginio Wijnaldum: 6
Solid and dependable as we’ve come to expect, just lacking a touch of dynamism today in an admittedly very tight Southampton set-up.
Philippe Coutinho: 5
Didn’t quite happen, maybe still a bit short after taking a bang against Watford and another one today early second half.
Roberto Firmino: 7
Worked like an absolute dog to find the gaps, couldn’t, but not for the lack of trying. Showed great discipline not to get drawn into Southampton’s clear intent to unsettle him.
Divock Origi: 5
Just looks a bit lost again, no space at all to attack and never really looks comfortable outside the lines of the box, not for the lack of effort but lacks awareness of what’s around him.
SUBS
Daniel Sturridge: 7
So close twice to finding a way. A contradiction to how we play normally, but in 20 minutes showed more in the opposition box than anyone else in a red shirt.
Has unequalled intelligence and awareness, but not the body or a set-up suited to him.
Adam Lallana: 5
Came in cold and struggled to get involved, looked jaded which is maybe understandable after 70 minutes against Watford.
Marko Grujic: n/a
That header, la. Christ.
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6 for Wijnaldum seems incredibly generous.
Can’t recall him doing anything, he looks knackered to be fair!!
Have to agree, was totally anonymous today!
Agree with that. He’s becoming one of those players that gets an easy ride off the support. His position means you need to take some responsibility.
I’m a big Gini fan, but he’s been quietly woeful for the last few matches.
Gini has been really frustrating. Hides too often in these types of games. Would have scored him a 3.
He must get 6 just for turning up as he did f*ck all today.
What an absolute shower of shithouses Southampton are.
Totally agree. No one is expecting them to come to Anfield and bend over for us, but they set up and time wasted as if they were protecting a 1-0 first leg league in a Champions League semi final. Some of their celebrations at the end were laughable.
Up to us to find a way of course, but I don’t care what anyone (especially Jamie Carragher who was on us from minute one) says- when playing against a 9-1-0 formation it is a struggle for anybody. Especially for a team which if we’re totally honest isn’t filled with a lot of quality and pace.
One of them. I do think Clyne is an issue though. Fine defensively bit offers very little going forward and teams are happy to let him have the ball. Trent would offer better balls in and more movement in behind.
Hard to argue with any of those scores. Maybe next season include a score for the manager. I think klopp has a lot to answer for. 4 times we have played Southampton this season four times they have got the better of us and everyone klopp sets up the same against them. Isn’t the definition of madness doing the same thing time and time again and expecting different results?
We literally missed a pen. One of those days.
Worse, actually; we had a pen saved by a generally poor douche canoe that guessed the right way, and just happens to be 7m tall.
Fuck Southampton, seriously. It’s not football. I know everybody does it against us but I just hate this attitude some fans have of being proud of having stopped another team playing.
Fraser Forster is the biggest shithouse keeper I have seen in my life. I would have been happy for Milner to take the red just for breaking his jaw. It sounds like sour grapes but Forster is a genuinely SHIT keeper. We just couldn’t dig out the chances against desperately negative opponents.
Sturridge to start against West Ham in my view. Lallana too, obviously.
Infuriating but if Arsenal beat Utd our point will feel like three.
Don’t think Sturridge can play much more than 25 or 30 mate, that’s the problem.
True enough. Just feel he gives us something else. That turn and shot, weak though it was, showed what he has.
Let him start then and come off when he’s knackered.
Bollocks forgot how many games Arsenal have left. How the fuck does this happen?!
That only matter if we lose points, hope we don’t
I know it’s ‘not football’ but it’s a strategy that gives you a point 65% of the time, and 3 points 10% of the time and you have evidence to prove it. And the manager’s job is to optimise his output even in May. (Long twitter debate with phil B today that we failed to agree on)
You can only break 9 behind down with either width or pace and ideally both. Our width is now so non-existent it allows any side to crowd the middle and negate even LFC (Lallana Firm and Cout – see what I did there) quick feet. Man City / Spurs face the same shit every week and have width and pace in abundance. Plus and this is the Klopp issue for me – his first game (v Spurs l) set tone of pressing for first 20m and setting tone. We currently start like a Serie A side and with half the nous.
Changes should have been made earlier, everything looks so slow and tired at the moment, praying for a draw at the emirates now!!!
No dynamism at all today – team selection set the tone – overly cautious – doing my head in he hasn’t found a solution to teams doing this. Can’t wait for this season to fuck right off
Wish we’d stop moaning about everyone “looking knackered/shattered”. We’ve had a week off and stop playing 2 games a week months ago. Same excuse every week.
Exactly. There is no excuse now for a lack of intensity especially in the home games.
They are overworked in training Steven Gerrard said after training they feel wiped out so there you go
No no no no NO ! Sorry Andy you don’t get away with this ‘well it was nice sunny day out and the boys tried’ assessment. This was woeful shite where we have a week to yet again work out how to break down the same formula every other mid table side has brought to Anfield. And to wait till 70 mins to try the inevitable and obvious Plan B (Sturridge and Lallana) and Plan C (tall defender at centre forward Sunday League bullshit)
What does Klopp do all week ? What does Origi offer in training that somehow doesn’t come to bear on match day ?
NOT good enough. And all of my frustration is with Klopp. Of course he’s the best possible option for us but we need to see more from him. The formula against us was laid out in Jan and we’ve shown zero ability to counter it.
Totally agree with you Lee…. not good enough and not learning from mistakes. Gotta trust Klopp to know best but he seems to repeat the same errors every week.. hey, what do I know? I’m just so fucked off frustrated with the same old same old..
You better apply for his job then guys, seeing as you’re experts.
Oh come on mate, we’re all entitled to an opinion without getting a snide remark like that. I’ve lost a bit of confidence in the manager after today. He got his team selection wrong today and not for the first time.
Implying the job of a supporter is to lap any old shite? Be happy with being the profitable mediocre also rans these owners have turned us into, grateful to at least have a manager who isn’t SPL calibre?
Not sure it’s Klopp. The teams that can break down park the bus teams usually either do it very early in the game or they have a few creatives who can produce a moment of magic to break it open. What we need is one or two more creatives, all we had today was Firmino and Coutinho. I don’t think it’s a question of tactics but more a question of creative players who can take it upon themselves to win games.
The thing I’m strugggling with is I must have seen that game fifteen times this season.
Our lack of quality from wide areas hurt us terribly today because that is where games are won against shithouse teams like Southampton.
Part of me thinks we should consider taking Phil out of the front three and putting him into the midfield three with a free role, at least in certain matches. Give his place in the inside left position to legitimate wide player because at present Phil cutting inside is creating spaces on the left flank that aren’t being capitalised on.
Obviously I mean next season.
Indeed Dan, it is Groundhog Day.
How are Lovren and Can totally deluded about the rules of negotiation?
Seriously guys, what genuine selection alternatives did the manager have? Couldn’t fault the effort, defence looked solid, yes, we lacked a creative spark and ’twas a disappointing result (no blame on Jimmy Milner, he’s been an outstanding pen taker).
But the Emirates result means we’ve actually made progress today. We’re going to qualify for the Champions League so let’s stay positive. The team and Klopp deserve nothing less – we are ‘supporters’ – right?
Rock on…
Alternatives? Start Sturridge and Origi in a diamond, even if you only get 40 mins out of Sturridge. Bring mad Albie on and switch Milner across so we have something for them to think about on both flanks. Give Grujic a crack – at least he seems to be an aerial threat. Just don’t do the same s**t that is not working at home week after week after “I got you babe”
Fully agree with Baggio. Could have wrapped up top 4 spot today if Klopp had been a bit more proactive with his selection and subs.
Thankfully top 4 is still in our hands. But no guarantee we would beat West Ham if we show the same lack of inspiration from players and manager.
Andy Heaton ultras!!
Don’t really care for the people saying this and that about Klopp or the team, as it stands we’re third. Doesn’t matter how, just that we are. If you can’t be happy about, then what can you be happy about. Selection was shit just because he didn’t lallana and sturridge, players weren’t great, who gives a rats behind. City have a game in hand but we have points on the board. This may be turned to shit in two weeks but right now it doesn’t matter at all. We had our chances today and they didn’t go in. those chances weren’t flukes were they. Lallana’s pass to milner penetrated their back line, any other day its across the box and into the back of the net. 6 times out of 7 milner scores that pen. any other day firmino’s header, sturridge’s shot is two feet either way and they are in. Breaking them down wasn’t the issue today it was lack of being clinical. Again though who gives a tit, we’re third and its on our own hands
up the in our own hands reds
Yeah man. We should have won. Such is football !! Feck it. Don’t think that will be the only point dropped by us and the other 3 in the next 2 weeks. Up the shithouse saints and the equally shithouse potters now for a week. Then come on you spurs and of course Iago and those (didn’t show their true colours in a clever ruse) Celta Villans. Let the Arse and Utd sweat bucket loads and feck it up while we wait to slip one on Slaven.
We are Liverpool, we do it our way, the hard way …
Nite all….
“as it stands we’re third. Doesn’t matter how, just that we are. If you can’t be happy about, then what can you be happy about”
The treble. Or a 6th Champions league.
This is Anfield.
Despite our shite ownership.
There’s only one way to beat this team: We’ve got to sign the whole squad.
“WELL, how do you slag them off when, actually, they’ve not been that bad and the opposition have played well and rode their luck massively?”
Don’t agree with this Andy. The opposition just parked a double-decker.
Positives for me:
– still in 3rd place
– nobody got injured
– managed to get a point instead of losing to these fuckheads with Shane bloody Long doing a number last minute
– Scum kissed the Arse twice and returned the pendulum to us
– Theresa May’s hair wasn’t perturbed
– Mignolet didn’t have any comedy moments other than that one handball he got away with
– Seeing Grujic, Sturridge and Lallana play again
Negatives:
– Theresa May did not score a bicycle kick winner this time
– Milner’s penalty miss
– Milner standing like a tool listening to that fuckhead Forster lecturing him or whatever; why stand there, just walk to your teammates wait for the ref to finish his afternoon tea and crumpet conversation with the fuckheads and place the ball for the spot kick
– Origi is burned out
– Klopp has too much faith in the team that hasn’t really figured out how to break the bus down, and doesn’t make timely subs
– Clyne’s final 3rd play, wish he would at least earn a penalty or something
– the Ref, though he did award the penalty, fuck him!
– We have to play another shithouse team that have just destroyed Spurs’ hopes of the titles, and most likely will be waiting to dash our hopes of top 4
Up the Reds!
still in 3rd place
– nobody got injured
The sun was shining too.
This is where we are.
“We are where we are” as someone once said. Progress.