I TALK to Mick Coyle on his CityTalk show on a Tuesday morning. It’s one of the best things I get to do on a weekly basis. Last Tuesday we spoke about Matthew Crist’s piece on this very website, his ‘manifesto for the modern game’. I spoke about it, Gareth Roberts heard it and said: “You should write something.” Because this is what he does. I said: “OK, bit busy but when I can.” He said you should write about the kick-off time thing and I said: “Ah, sorry Robbo, Iain MacIntosh is ahead of you there. Already asked me to write about that for The Set Pieces.” Robbo: “He’s smart, Iain.”
We’re all on the same side so I’m writing two pieces almost as a back-to-back thing. In the article Matthew wrote, he mentioned early on the idea of bringing back people who are lost to the game. Those who we have lost, who have turned their back. Last Sunday, the day of the Blackburn game, conveniently, but actually truthfully, I got in a taxi with a driver who was one of these people. He looked at least 60, told me he felt sorry for lads my age, and said to me he knew the rot was setting in with all this merchandising being sold. I said: “What merchandising, mate?” I expected cups and bedsheets. “You know,” he said. “Scarves and that. Buying your Liverpool scarf from the club shop.”
Scarves. He knew the rot had set in there. This lost (old) boy’s head had gone when scarves kicked off. He was a lovely man; he was gutted I’d never had a pint watching Liverpool win the league (“I’ve done that loads, lad”) but scarves were his tipping point.
This is my tipping point. People have been priced out. This is plain wrong. Pricing people out is a bad thing to have happened and it should be corrected. But if you’ve packed it in for almost any other reason to do with the game, then, well, I’m not sure if I want you back. I’m not sure if you want to come back. I’m not sure everyone isn’t basically alright with you considering yourself, in the words of this taxi driver “more of a fan than a supporter these days” and others being in the ground. People get lost. That’s OK.
People being priced out is wrong and ticket prices should be significantly lowered around all grounds as soon as possible. There are massive issues around access, especially for young people, and safe standing should be in the conversation. Beyond that almost everything else discussed under the umbrella of dealing with modern football is ephemera — especially with reference to Liverpool Football Club. Much of it is simply pointless, nostalgic, naval-gazing fluff of middle-aged white men convinced pop music isn’t anywhere near as good as it once was. Football and music — both well better when you were 21.
The further complication is that the ticket price issue, access issues and standing issues are further complicated in the context of Liverpool. Liverpool’s situation is unique. Safe standing shouldn’t need an explanation. Were I concerned about the atmosphere and a supporter of any other football club, especially any other top-flight football club, I’d be pushing for rail seating but I’d be pushing for it to be a section sold exclusively for 17-25 year olds. Get the atmosphere going there. At 34, I’d be acknowledging this has passed me by. But I’m a Liverpool supporter and as such we need to be acutely sensitive about how thorny this issue is for many of us and how thorny it always will be. I hope to live another 50 years or so. I doubt I’ll see it at Anfield, and I accept that. I don’t, however, think this means it shouldn’t happen at other clubs.
Further, Liverpool currently occupy this very difficult position on access. We sell out. All the time, we sell out. We have loads of season ticket holders and loads who want to come. The ground tends to be very full. Are there always spares? Yes. But two together can be hard to come by. Everyone wants to take their kids every now and again, but how do you do that? How does that actually practically work without more seats? Every fix is a sticking plaster fix on this one. Nothing actually addresses the access issue which isn’t “Build ten thousand more seats.” I like ideas around sections that Matthew mentions, unreserved seating and specific age sections. All nice. But to do it you are moving people and let me tell you now — people don’t want to be moved.
This is easier if you don’t sell out. If, like most Premier League clubs, including the present champions in last season’s run in, you have +/- 10 per cent of your capacity wanting to come to every game. That way you can change things, you can sell half season tickets, you can have bespoke rates for 17-25 year olds. You can make change. You can address access. Liverpool could have sold 200,000 tickets for Manchester City at home in the run in last season. Put simply, in order to address the access issue someone who is currently going to at least 10 home games a year, whether through membership or through a season ticket, would need to have that number significantly cut.
This is often where “tourists” get a mention, but I’m reluctant to suggest the only grouping of supporters who do share the tickets among themselves (if they are going to more than two or three games a year, they cease to be tourists) and allow greater access for their group are the problem here. Though Thomas Cook can do one. I’m the problem here. I’m not giving my access to Anfield up. I’m going to 19 homes. I’m going to aways when I can. I’m not spreading the love. I am in favour of it being spread, but I enjoy my football too much to see it spread too far.
See? Unique. This really isn’t as big a problem elsewhere. Nor does everywhere else have the weight of our history, our culture, our city all to engage with as well. Everywhere else — with the always honourable exception of Everton and Manchester United — is, on this front, very different. They are — in the top flight — mostly watching the best players they have probably ever seen.
Ticket prices are far too high. We all know it. What we don’t acknowledge is that, given the above, at Liverpool they are currently already being held artificially lower than they could be. Liverpool could price tickets for certain games, if not most games, 30 or 40 quid greater than they are now. They aren’t doing that. Nor do they have a secondary ticketing partner. This is a good thing. It very much is a good thing. The reason why it is a good thing is that it means Liverpool Football Club already acknowledges, implicitly, that the market should not dictate the price of tickets for football matches. Liverpool Football Club already acknowledges that ticket prices need to be controlled. They are engaged, internally, in a conversation about where a line should be drawn and groups like SOS and 1906 are already doing a job here, too. Let’s see that line redrawn towards sense.
Not the idea of cheaper children’s tickets or 17-25 tickets — see above. To do that would mean solving a far tougher problem, but a further acknowledgement that somewhere around £20 or £30 is enough to see a football match isn’t that tough of a problem. An acknowledgement that the inflation on tickets far beyond societal inflation has been wrong, can be addressed and we can start again shouldn’t be impossible — not least because Liverpool cannot win an arms race against Manchester United and Arsenal.
We’re in a position to see that change — now, more than ever we can see that change come. Of all the things that can change at Liverpool, across the country, because of television money, because kick offs are wild, of all the things that can change, ticket prices is the most straightforward.
But it isn’t the easiest change. The easiest thing to change is yourself. If you don’t enjoy modern football, if going to watch Liverpool isn’t for you, then stop going. You are occupying a seat a child could have, a seat someone between the ages of 17-25 could have. You are occupying space someone from Tuebrook or Timbuktu could sit in, watching their first game, however old they are. If you aren’t enjoying it, then let them enjoy it. Let them take it in. It’s great. Going to football matches is great. Watching these exceptional players do what they do. Being able to do so at a time where racism, sexism and homophobia at football matches, while still too prevalent, is at a comparable low (though evidently not eradicated and won’t be until racism, sexism and homophobia is eradicated from society), when policing isn’t what it was in the 1980s, when our city is set up around football.
Frankly, much of my manifesto for a modern era would come down to this:
“Think about things from the point of view of all other supporters, where ever they are from, support and constantly engage with bodies like SOS and more than anything else — enjoy yourself. It’s later than you think.”
We’re paying a ton of money for this, whether we should be or not. It’s taking up a load of our time and our mental energy. Far too much if we are being honest. And if you’d lazily say to me that you enjoy a good moan, that you enjoy being cynical about others, well, essentially, I just think “Clarkson”. Don’t be Clarkson, mate. Grumpiness turned into something to be cherished is a soul diminishing thing. But, fundamentally, I don’t believe you. I don’t believe that you love a good moan. I’ve seen you. At the football. Watching Liverpool. Celebrating a goal, gasping at a wonderful piece of skill. I’ve seen you. Before the football. With your friends, having a pint and a laugh, happy to be out of the house. I’ve seen you, around the football, for all its imperfections and flaws and substandard performances, happy to be alive. I’ve seen you. You haven’t been lost. You’re still here. Don’t use grumpiness as a shield or cynicism as a spear. You’re on this website, this modern football website right now. You’re on other websites. Other modern football websites. I can see you.
You choose. You choose whether or not to enjoy it, you choose whether or not to throw yourself in. Choose correctly. Or get lost.
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Good read Neil – when me and my Dad were doing our usual circuit round the ground before going for the City game, I was thinking to myself about how much I hate modern football. Observing the half and half scarves… the ‘family zone’… all that crap. And then I thought, I know I’m a right cynical git… try and be positive.. think of some things that are good about going to the game, the modern game. But still I struggled.
But it’s an interesting point about the incumbents being part of the problem. Or at least not helping the situation. People always put Germany up on a pedistil in terms of what supporting football should be like. Something that Germany does have, is a lower percentage of season ticket holders…
“We have a very interesting situation. First, tickets are cheap. Second, many clubs limit the percentage of season tickets. For instance, Borussia Dortmund, Schalke 04, Hamburg, Bayern Munich. They want to give more fans the chance to watch games live. If you have 80%, 100% then it is all the same people in the stadium. Also in Germany the guest club has the right to 10% of the tickets for its fans.”
Source: http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2010/apr/11/bundesliga-premier-league
It’s funny how we view things, as I think due to the low % of season ticket holders big German clubs have the issue of “tourists” and “daytrippers” as much as Liverpool or Man Utd do. I go once a year to watch St. Pauli in Hamburg… I know lads over there now, and a couple of them came to Liverpool – Zenit a couple of years ago. But what do the hardcore St. Pauli fans think of the ‘tourists’ like me… ?
Not actually sure what point I’m trying to make… so I’ll stop there.
But it’s an interesting debate… and one that is so full of contradiction, cynicism. nuances and stereotyping that I don’t expect it will ever end. So you’re probably right Neil…. let’s just try and fucking enjoy ourselves.
I agree with a lot of this. Name me something in life that stays stagnant and improves. You have to evolve with the times to a large extent. I’m very nostalgic but I’m aware of 2 things. One, that the past was good in it’s own right but it was a moment in time and can’t and shouldn’t be replicated later on and two, that in years to come I’ll look back on these times nostalgically, as good times, especially last season. That was my favourite ever in terms of intensity. Another thing I’m aware of is nostalgia plays tricks on ones mind. I loved football in the 80’s and I love watching Liverpool now but it’s pointless trying to apply the values of the past to the modern game. It can’t work. My feeling is, some people are looking for an identity for their own personal reasons as much as how they want the club to be when they complain about modern football.
I still have issues with the music analogy thing though.
It’s not just modern football, though. It’s the top level of the game in this country when every game is on TV, where it’s an entertainment product first and foremost. If you want to watch a game, stand or sit, go to a local lower league club every now and then. You don’t have to be sucked in by the glamour on the box. You can watch decent games in the conference, wander around the ground talking to the fans that love their club just as much as you love yours.
The bit that really connects with me is the ‘easiest thing to change is yourself’. There are groups of supporters, season ticket holders who go partly for the social aspect of a pint after the game, they go out of habit not because they wake up on a Saturday morning excited to watch Liverpool football Club. They won’t give up the ticket so they can go to the glory games without too much effort trying to get a ticket, but decide at 2pm there not going because, well, it’s just a bit too cold, and I can go the next one.
Whilst they shouldn’t be forced out (we need to respect that over the years they have paid good money to watch some poor football) but we should entice them out. Offer the security of those games they get excited about, but an option for those they don’t want to go to. Yes we have the ticket exchange, but is that working, is it marketed well enough?
I know loads of people who’d like to go to the odd game or 2 in the season, but find access to tickets the issue. I like the idea of the German model of keeping the ratio of season tickets lower, but it would be end up a complete lottery and it wouldn’t satisfy the desires of countless fans who’d like to experience a game.
I was fortunate to be able to spend £5 and stand on the Kop a few times as a boy. It’s a pity that so many 10 year olds wont, and you hear them regurgitate pundits comments of defence splitting past, rather than singing songs heard on the terraces.
I got priced out of the game in my latter youth, now I find I’m accessed out of it, getting the odd cup game with my lad. He wants to go more, I’d like to go more…. but out of that disappointment is the feeling of belonging to a club with such a uniqueness that makes those odd games even more special.
Excellent article Neil however I must confess I am part of the problem. I’m American and unlike many supporters from around the world I am fortunate enough to be able to make one or two trips a year to watch Liverpool and I have been doing so since 2011. Of course this leads to the question “how did you get tickets?” when asked this question I usually say something like “I have a friend that got me sorted” which obviously is complete BS and the truth is I pay a large amount of money to touts for my tickets. I’ve tried to get them the right way but of course that’s nearly impossible for someone like myself. I do feel bad about it but its the only way I can get tickets that I know are legitimate. Hopefully with the stadium expansion there will be more access and an easier path to purchase tickets. So call me a tourist, wool, or whatever name you want but I love this club and I cherish each opportunity I get to see them in person and I wouldn’t trade those experiences for anything which is why I agree with Neil that getting more supporters particularly younger ones the opportunity to have those same experiences is important because you shouldn’t have to be a millionaire just to support your football club.