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NEIL ATKINSON was joined by Rob Gutmann, Peter Hooton, John Gibbons and United We Stand’s Steve Armstrong to review Liverpool’s meek exit from the Champions League and preview a potential season changer at Old Trafford.
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Good podcast. Went out like a wounded cat indeed!
Just posted that Paul Tomkins article, that Neil retweeted this morning, onto our mates messages page.
He made a quote similar to, I can’t even discuss football with fans who have no understanding of how teams work.
I don’t claim to know anything but I completely agree with his point. I’ve just had it all morning. We should of done this, we should have done that. What about Robinho – proof that if you pay the money they’ll come. As soon as he said that I logged off. Anyway, the debate was on FFP, are Liverpool as big as they think they are, do players want money or silverware etc etc.
My mate asked me how far I thought we were behind Chelsea and Utd in terms of revenue so I had a look.
I was amazed to be honest. My sister’s getting married in 2 hours so admittedly it was a very quick google search and I don’t claim it fully accurate (I’m gonna look at the revenue break down tomorrow and may have some insight for future debates on here, haha) but Utd earned £433m (in the 2014 accounts). Chelsea £320m, City £270m, Arsenal £244m and Liverpool £206m. I think that’s important to know, especially for the ‘just go out and offer them £500k a week’ argument. My conclusion is we’re every bit as deluded as they say we are.
My other conclusion was those hot dogs must be pretty expensive at Stamford Bridge and the Eithad.
I see Rodgers came out and said we tried for the big signings, and the lads mentioned it on the podcast, but did we really try??
Lovren was first choice, as was Lallana, Moreno and Lambert by all accounts and none of them I would class as top quality and so far they havnt proved me wrong. In fact not one of them has claimed their position in the starting XI which illustrates they have been poorly picked or integrated.
We were all very happy we targetted Sanchez as the Suarez replacement but did we really push for him. Barca was gonna be hit with a transfer ban and wanted Suarez, we had him. We wanted Sanchez in return so surely more could have been done. Southampton were able to string us along all summer and milk us for £25mil and yet seemingly we caved re Sanchez. Didn’t Wenger fly to Brazil to persuade him to join.
We didn’t get Sanchez. So our backup plan was Remy?!?! Really?! That was our next step. The most important player in our team was leaving and we gave a bit of an effort to get Sanchez and had Remy as a plan B???
That doesn’t exactly scream “trying to get in the top players”!!
I’m not sure everyone really appreciates how much of a set back our transfer fuck up is gonna hurt us and subsequent failure to reach CL next yr. The CL money next year more than doubles which means wages and transfer fees will go up which we already currently struggle to compete with. The top 4 will just pull further away and we will fall further adrift with our inability to attract the top quality player and pay for them. If any of our young “talent” come good they’ll be cherry picked by the big clubs and we wont be able to do anything about it.
I still think we could still make top 4 but only if we invest in an experienced keeper and striker in Jan. No more kids please. We need to stop placing so much emphasis on sell on ability and just realise success brings its own financial rewards. My personal preference would be Cech and Luis Adriano, both available for under £15mil combined. Is it that much to spend if you can reach top 4?!
you really think we didn’t try to get big name players , that we would just stand back and just ignore them , that if only rodgers flew to brazil we would have got sanchez .
you are as deluded as a liverpool fan gets .
Ok Jonny, which top players did we try to get bar Sanchez???
Names please?
As I pointed out Lovren, Lallana, Moreno and Lambert were all first choice, so which first choice players did we go after and fail to get??
Arsenal went above and beyond to land Sanchez. OK sometimes you don’t get your man but Remy as plan B????
Please enlighten us, which top quality player did we chase only to fail???
Sadly, we have a recent history of trying for players and missing out-
Sigurðsson, Mkhitaryan, Sala, Costa, Sanchez, Pedro/ Tello (can’t remeber which one we went after in exchange of the Suarez deal, only for the player choosing not to leave).
But at least we are trying … right??
How can you be so sure Remy was supposed to be Suarez’s replacement after the Sanchez deal fell through. My reading of it was Remy was a 3rd choice striker behind Sturridge and a Falcao / Cavani / Benzema type player. He was £7m. The club wouldn’t have got away with that. The club eventually got Mario as the big name but Borini wouldn’t leave so we got stuck with him as the 3rd choice and Lambert as 4th. I thought Remy was for Borini and Mario for Suarez.